Comments on: How To Visualize PLM Excels using Microsoft Pivot? http://plmtwine.com/2009/12/30/how-to-visualize-plm-excels-using-microsoft-pivot/ Product Lifecycle Management by Oleg Shilovitsky Wed, 30 May 2012 21:05:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: olegshilovitsky http://plmtwine.com/2009/12/30/how-to-visualize-plm-excels-using-microsoft-pivot/#comment-3488 Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:04:06 +0000 http://plmtwine.com/?p=3891#comment-3488 apandre, Thanks! Usual practice of big companies is to learn on top of partners and smaller companies in trying to do some more agile and something that can close gaps in big vendor’s offering. So, gaps in Excel Services is a good opportunity for other vendors… I will be interested to discuss answers… Best, Oleg

]]> By: apandre http://plmtwine.com/2009/12/30/how-to-visualize-plm-excels-using-microsoft-pivot/#comment-3485 Mon, 04 Jan 2010 14:19:17 +0000 http://plmtwine.com/?p=3891#comment-3485 Oleg:

to me Excel Services are just a toy compare with SpreadsheetWEB; I asked the inventor of SpreadsheetWEB and CEO of http://www.pagos.com to comment on your question.
I hope he will find the time for it, if not, I will comment myself. Don’t get me wrong, Excel Services have a lot of potentials, but they need a lot of improvements (and I know that Microsoft is trying hard to get them out of the door) before they will be a contender.
Happy 2010!

]]> By: olegshilovitsky http://plmtwine.com/2009/12/30/how-to-visualize-plm-excels-using-microsoft-pivot/#comment-3470 Mon, 04 Jan 2010 03:43:01 +0000 http://plmtwine.com/?p=3891#comment-3470 apandre, Thanks! I see what you are saying. User doesn’t differentiate, otherwise something significantly different happens. How you can differentiate the technologies you mentioned from Excel services (or similar web apps)? Best, Oleg

]]> By: apandre http://plmtwine.com/2009/12/30/how-to-visualize-plm-excels-using-microsoft-pivot/#comment-3463 Sun, 03 Jan 2010 16:28:52 +0000 http://plmtwine.com/?p=3891#comment-3463 I agree with observations – many trying to get a ride,
but technology I mentioned (http://www.spreadsheetweb.com/ ) is not following of Excel, it is THE innovator and is much ahead of Excel, while actually having all Excel flexibility user can handle!
For example it supports 333+ built-in Excel formulas (basically all) and allows to create interactive ONLINE multi-user PivotTables® reports.

]]> By: olegshilovitsky http://plmtwine.com/2009/12/30/how-to-visualize-plm-excels-using-microsoft-pivot/#comment-3458 Sun, 03 Jan 2010 11:28:39 +0000 http://plmtwine.com/?p=3891#comment-3458 apandre, Thanks for the link! I see quite many apps that are trying to get a ride on top of Excel success. The biggest problem of these apps is to keep up with Excel flexibility… Best, Oleg

]]> By: apandre http://plmtwine.com/2009/12/30/how-to-visualize-plm-excels-using-microsoft-pivot/#comment-3448 Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:38:25 +0000 http://plmtwine.com/?p=3891#comment-3448 Take a look on this: http://www.spreadsheetweb.com/
It allows to convert Excel spreadsheets to multi-user web applications with data residing in SQL Server.

]]> By: olegshilovitsky http://plmtwine.com/2009/12/30/how-to-visualize-plm-excels-using-microsoft-pivot/#comment-3446 Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:14:39 +0000 http://plmtwine.com/?p=3891#comment-3446 Prashant, Agree with you. Different type of visualization can potentially bring benefits. However, most of them (star, visual graph) had a complexity when you got a complex structure. For example, 3DLive (and all star rep) have a problem when you have to show huge number of parts in the row. The same can happen with your spacetree if you will put the number of part in the assembly to 50-100… Best, Oleg

]]> By: Prashant http://plmtwine.com/2009/12/30/how-to-visualize-plm-excels-using-microsoft-pivot/#comment-3445 Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:05:22 +0000 http://plmtwine.com/?p=3891#comment-3445 I wasnt perticularly talking about the “star way” presentation but collecting/processing the huge amount of nodes and presenting them to the user in a fashion that makes sense and adds value to his work by reducing the amount of time he has to spend on analyzing it. It gives an engineer an idea where the part would fit in larger context.
You could present it the way you want for example here is another way. http://thejit.org/Jit/Examples/Spacetree/example2.html. What is challenging is processing such data on demand and present it as fast as user thinks. Wouldnt it be great if I could present him a complexity report of a huge assembly in a visual way rather than plain textual format?

]]> By: olegshilovitsky http://plmtwine.com/2009/12/30/how-to-visualize-plm-excels-using-microsoft-pivot/#comment-3443 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:20:13 +0000 http://plmtwine.com/?p=3891#comment-3443 Prashant, The “star way” you presented used by multiple old PDM’s UI (including MatrixOne)… Today, you can see almost the same concept in 3DLive (but obviously in 3D). Do you see advantages in such presentation? Best, Oleg

]]> By: Prashant http://plmtwine.com/2009/12/30/how-to-visualize-plm-excels-using-microsoft-pivot/#comment-3441 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:04:50 +0000 http://plmtwine.com/?p=3891#comment-3441 Oleg

This is interesting. such tools could be effectively used to see/maintain/modify product structures easily. This is also possible with GWT.

For e.g you can show product structures something like this http://thejit.org/Jit/Examples/Hypertree/example1.html

There is one more similar library but I cant find it in my bookmarks written with GWT

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