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	<title>Comments on: How PLM can help me to share product secrets in organization?</title>
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	<description>Product Lifecycle Management by Oleg Shilovitsky</description>
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		<title>By: olegshilovitsky</title>
		<link>http://plmtwine.com/2009/08/17/how-plm-can-help-me-to-share-product-secrets-in-organization/#comment-2106</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[olegshilovitsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom, Agree, however it still sounds like a challenge. Regards, Oleg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, Agree, however it still sounds like a challenge. Regards, Oleg</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Shoemaker</title>
		<link>http://plmtwine.com/2009/08/17/how-plm-can-help-me-to-share-product-secrets-in-organization/#comment-2105</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Shoemaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having a coherent, complete system of record is clearly still a very important concept.  However, in some ways, it should be viewed as independent of the technologies being used, provided that all related tools, regardless of the vendor, are engineered to work together effectively.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having a coherent, complete system of record is clearly still a very important concept.  However, in some ways, it should be viewed as independent of the technologies being used, provided that all related tools, regardless of the vendor, are engineered to work together effectively.</p>
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		<title>By: olegshilovitsky</title>
		<link>http://plmtwine.com/2009/08/17/how-plm-can-help-me-to-share-product-secrets-in-organization/#comment-2096</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[olegshilovitsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom, Thank you! PLM marketing often mentioning something called &quot;single point of truth&quot; managed by PDM kind of storage. This is a great marketing concept in my view. However, sometime, it creates confusion and data ownership conflicts. How do you see this concept connected to to product data and ideas distributed between various types of wiki, sharepoint workspaces and windchill storages...? Thanks, Oleg.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, Thank you! PLM marketing often mentioning something called &#8220;single point of truth&#8221; managed by PDM kind of storage. This is a great marketing concept in my view. However, sometime, it creates confusion and data ownership conflicts. How do you see this concept connected to to product data and ideas distributed between various types of wiki, sharepoint workspaces and windchill storages&#8230;? Thanks, Oleg.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Shoemaker</title>
		<link>http://plmtwine.com/2009/08/17/how-plm-can-help-me-to-share-product-secrets-in-organization/#comment-2094</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Shoemaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oleg-

Sure, wikis and wiki-like capabilities, (whether delivered through SharePoint or other technologies) can be useful to document product ideas and changes.  Re: association, I think the system need flexibility to enable auto-association, but to also allow for manual association between design data and sharepoint objects to meet unique customer needs. 

Yes, simple sharepoint functions like searching, combined with higher level functions like visualization form a great means by which to access and reuse data for free form processes.

Tom]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oleg-</p>
<p>Sure, wikis and wiki-like capabilities, (whether delivered through SharePoint or other technologies) can be useful to document product ideas and changes.  Re: association, I think the system need flexibility to enable auto-association, but to also allow for manual association between design data and sharepoint objects to meet unique customer needs. </p>
<p>Yes, simple sharepoint functions like searching, combined with higher level functions like visualization form a great means by which to access and reuse data for free form processes.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: olegshilovitsky</title>
		<link>http://plmtwine.com/2009/08/17/how-plm-can-help-me-to-share-product-secrets-in-organization/#comment-2076</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[olegshilovitsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom, I will try another potential dangerous practice and will continue asking questions to Robin based on your answer :)... But you are welcome to answer too... :)

1. SharePoint (or not only SharePoint) wiki can contain potential idea description or even change definition - look back on my posts (http://plmtwine.com/2008/12/05/virtual-ccb-idea-can-we-use-wiki-for-plm/; http://plmtwine.com/2009/02/25/use-wiki-for-plm-change-management-–-revised/). What is big question for me is how association (or what Robin called publishing) mechanism work for customer. So, any thought about this? 

2. From ProductPoint video, I learned that CAD model is basically exploded into SharePoint modeling elements (workspaces, documents, lists, folders). Do you see it as a way to make design data available for free form processes? 

Thanks for your comments and discussion!
Best, Oleg.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, I will try another potential dangerous practice and will continue asking questions to Robin based on your answer <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8230; But you are welcome to answer too&#8230; <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>1. SharePoint (or not only SharePoint) wiki can contain potential idea description or even change definition &#8211; look back on my posts (<a href="http://plmtwine.com/2008/12/05/virtual-ccb-idea-can-we-use-wiki-for-plm/" rel="nofollow">http://plmtwine.com/2008/12/05/virtual-ccb-idea-can-we-use-wiki-for-plm/</a>; <a href="http://plmtwine.com/2009/02/25/use-wiki-for-plm-change-management-–-revised/" rel="nofollow">http://plmtwine.com/2009/02/25/use-wiki-for-plm-change-management-–-revised/</a>). What is big question for me is how association (or what Robin called publishing) mechanism work for customer. So, any thought about this? </p>
<p>2. From ProductPoint video, I learned that CAD model is basically exploded into SharePoint modeling elements (workspaces, documents, lists, folders). Do you see it as a way to make design data available for free form processes? </p>
<p>Thanks for your comments and discussion!<br />
Best, Oleg.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Shoemaker</title>
		<link>http://plmtwine.com/2009/08/17/how-plm-can-help-me-to-share-product-secrets-in-organization/#comment-2075</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Shoemaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is Tom attempting the potentially dangerous practice of answering for Robin :-) ... 

Yes, we are actively investigating the use cases of these loosely coupled processes such as idea generation and are monitoring available technologies. And yes, SharePoint (and by extension, Windchill ProductPoint) enables many of these types of communication. For example, wikis can be created and associated to CAD models. The wiki contents are indexed so that searches can be performed. Also, there are accommodations for this more freeform environment of Windchill ProductPoint to connect to and publish its product information to a more managed environment like Windchill PDMLink when it&#039;s time to do so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Tom attempting the potentially dangerous practice of answering for Robin <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8230; </p>
<p>Yes, we are actively investigating the use cases of these loosely coupled processes such as idea generation and are monitoring available technologies. And yes, SharePoint (and by extension, Windchill ProductPoint) enables many of these types of communication. For example, wikis can be created and associated to CAD models. The wiki contents are indexed so that searches can be performed. Also, there are accommodations for this more freeform environment of Windchill ProductPoint to connect to and publish its product information to a more managed environment like Windchill PDMLink when it&#8217;s time to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: olegshilovitsky</title>
		<link>http://plmtwine.com/2009/08/17/how-plm-can-help-me-to-share-product-secrets-in-organization/#comment-2071</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[olegshilovitsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robin, Thank you for your answer. Are you familiar with systems that are able to manage this loosely coupled processes of idea generation? I thought, such processes can be handled by functionalities as communities, wikis, forums, blogs and captured for future more strictly defined usage. For example, SharePoint can provide such capabilities. However  process of publishing/connection is something that could be very problematic. How these connection works in ProductPoint? Is there something that can insure data consistency and availability between sandbox and managed environment? Thanks, Oleg.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin, Thank you for your answer. Are you familiar with systems that are able to manage this loosely coupled processes of idea generation? I thought, such processes can be handled by functionalities as communities, wikis, forums, blogs and captured for future more strictly defined usage. For example, SharePoint can provide such capabilities. However  process of publishing/connection is something that could be very problematic. How these connection works in ProductPoint? Is there something that can insure data consistency and availability between sandbox and managed environment? Thanks, Oleg.</p>
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		<title>By: robin saitz</title>
		<link>http://plmtwine.com/2009/08/17/how-plm-can-help-me-to-share-product-secrets-in-organization/#comment-2069</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[robin saitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oleg, 

Processes that are more loosely defined like idea generation can easily evolve content with a variety of inputs from people and other sources of content in a community space, whether that community is limited to people inside your organization or not.  Through this evolution, some of these ideas will naturally rise to the top and others will be discarded, while others might be put on hold for consideration in the future.  Those product ideas or solutions to problems that seem the most promising typically need further thinking, evolution, and informal concepting, which can happen in this sandbox environment.  But at some point, the idea needs to become more fully developed; requirements established and detailed design created.  These are more well –defined and formal processes that are the purview of PLM.  Once ideas in the sandbox are deemed mature enough, they would be promoted/published to the PLM environment, where they would be governed by more formal processes.  Similarly, PLM-managed  content needs to be able to be published back to the community space/sandbox for occasions when problems have been identified in released product but no solution is obvious. Or when new product ideas are born from existing products.  Iterating on ideas in the community space as described above and in my blog is ideal. Hope that answers your Q.

Robin]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oleg, </p>
<p>Processes that are more loosely defined like idea generation can easily evolve content with a variety of inputs from people and other sources of content in a community space, whether that community is limited to people inside your organization or not.  Through this evolution, some of these ideas will naturally rise to the top and others will be discarded, while others might be put on hold for consideration in the future.  Those product ideas or solutions to problems that seem the most promising typically need further thinking, evolution, and informal concepting, which can happen in this sandbox environment.  But at some point, the idea needs to become more fully developed; requirements established and detailed design created.  These are more well –defined and formal processes that are the purview of PLM.  Once ideas in the sandbox are deemed mature enough, they would be promoted/published to the PLM environment, where they would be governed by more formal processes.  Similarly, PLM-managed  content needs to be able to be published back to the community space/sandbox for occasions when problems have been identified in released product but no solution is obvious. Or when new product ideas are born from existing products.  Iterating on ideas in the community space as described above and in my blog is ideal. Hope that answers your Q.</p>
<p>Robin</p>
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		<title>By: olegshilovitsky</title>
		<link>http://plmtwine.com/2009/08/17/how-plm-can-help-me-to-share-product-secrets-in-organization/#comment-2063</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[olegshilovitsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robin, 
Thank you for your comments! I agree, some of the processes are well defined and some of them are not. So, my question is how do you see them connected? Best, Oleg.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin,<br />
Thank you for your comments! I agree, some of the processes are well defined and some of them are not. So, my question is how do you see them connected? Best, Oleg.</p>
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		<title>By: robin saitz</title>
		<link>http://plmtwine.com/2009/08/17/how-plm-can-help-me-to-share-product-secrets-in-organization/#comment-2062</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[robin saitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oleg, et al, 
I tried to post this yesterday while on the road, but had no luck.  Great conversation!  PLM absolutely is intended to enable and support collaborative product development processes.  But the key point here is that they are well-defined processes. Most processes require some level of collaboration and PLM must provide capabilities for that.   The activities I described in my blog (http://bit.ly/4AXrI) which are more focused on idea capture/vetting, problem solving, and expertise identification, require different capabilities, like those of social product development.  Does that mean they do not belong in one system?  Of course not. In fact, a product development system that can enable product design authoring, social product development, and product development governance, delivers the necessary capabilities to help companies achieve their business objectives.

Robin]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oleg, et al,<br />
I tried to post this yesterday while on the road, but had no luck.  Great conversation!  PLM absolutely is intended to enable and support collaborative product development processes.  But the key point here is that they are well-defined processes. Most processes require some level of collaboration and PLM must provide capabilities for that.   The activities I described in my blog (<a href="http://bit.ly/4AXrI" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/4AXrI</a>) which are more focused on idea capture/vetting, problem solving, and expertise identification, require different capabilities, like those of social product development.  Does that mean they do not belong in one system?  Of course not. In fact, a product development system that can enable product design authoring, social product development, and product development governance, delivers the necessary capabilities to help companies achieve their business objectives.</p>
<p>Robin</p>
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