Comments on: 5 reasons why Wiki fails for PLM collaboration

By: Артур

Артур — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 00:47:34 +0000

Хм… Достаточно спорно, поспорил бы с автором…

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By: PLM and Profitability » Blog Archive » What I Learned: Is Social Product Development Viable without PLM?

Mon, 11 May 2009 06:56:14 +0000

[...] I learned this week … came from a post on PLM Think Tank (aka PLM Twine) titled 5 reasons why Wiki fails for PLM collaboration which I think points to an interesting set of [...]

By: olegshilovitsky

olegshilovitsky — Thu, 07 May 2009 04:08:13 +0000

Jim, thank you for your comment. With regards to your question about “who will make social computing in PLM happen”, I think it will never happen. PLM will need to keep business value and I agree with you on this. Social computing or social software be integrated with PLM capabilities. Social software capabilities will become available as services (more in more..) and in the end it will be kind of IM tools we are using today with our PLM products. – Regards,Oleg

By: olegshilovitsky

olegshilovitsky — Thu, 07 May 2009 04:03:05 +0000

Lex
Thanks for pointing on these two products. I will take more deep look on them. Regards, Oleg

By: Jim Brown

Jim Brown — Wed, 06 May 2009 16:20:22 +0000

Oleg,
I applaud your taking this issue “one level down” to discuss the technical details. I also applaud those that commented, what a great conversation!
I have two key takeaways from Oleg and the comments:
- Don’t count wikis short, there is work being done to make them enterprise class
- Don’t try to replace your PLM system with a wiki, they are not meant to replicate what PLM has evolved into over the last decade or so =
The question I explore in addition to this is “who will make social computing in PLM happen?” Will it be natural the evolution of social networking platforms? Will it be custom development by manufacturers that use both technologies? Will PLM integrate social computing platforms? Or will PLM vendors build their own social computing capabilities? The answer lies in the “next level down” thinking.
A bit more on my blog if you are interested, http://tech-clarity.com/clarityonplm/?p=33, and thanks to Oleg for sparking this great discussion.

By: What I Learned: Is Social Product Development Viable without PLM? | Clarity on PLM

Wed, 06 May 2009 15:40:24 +0000

[...] I learned this week … came from a post on PLM Think Tank (aka PLM Twine) titled 5 reasons why Wiki fails for PLM collaboration which I think points to an interesting set of [...]

By: Lex Slaghuis

Lex Slaghuis — Wed, 06 May 2009 08:10:31 +0000

You missed out mature enterprise products like Confluence and Dekiwiki.

I am fairly confident that they will meet your demands for PLM.

By: olegshilovitsky

olegshilovitsky — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:47:11 +0000

Chris, good points, thanks! From research you did, how do you see potential of generic wiki engine expanding vs. customization/proprietary development? – Thanks.Oleg.

By: chris

chris — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:01:55 +0000

Oleg you are right on target. A wiki is a great idea but fails in implementation or application as a Product Development solution. Prior to my CEO role at Seemage I spent 18 months working on a Product Development wiki. The research behind this work is now being used in Vuuch. Structure and/or what you called flat is the problem of generic wiki engines. If you compare a wiki to excel, excel give you a better solution, simply because colmns define some level of structure or organization. In Vuuch we will provide Page derived view of certain information and allow certain wiki like edits on segmented information. The Page is not totally wiki like, since Vuuch determines the Page type and the Page relationships.