Comments on: Can RIA technologies help us to build better Enterprise PLM? http://plmtwine.com/2009/04/14/can-ria-technologies-help-us-to-build-better-enterprise-plm/ Product Lifecycle Management by Oleg Shilovitsky Fri, 25 May 2012 04:36:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: olegshilovitsky http://plmtwine.com/2009/04/14/can-ria-technologies-help-us-to-build-better-enterprise-plm/#comment-711 Thu, 16 Apr 2009 08:15:04 +0000 http://olegshilo.wordpress.com/?p=1190#comment-711 Max, great observation! BPMN make a lot of sense. And bring sort of compatibility in processes. -Oleg.

]]> By: Max J. Pucher http://plmtwine.com/2009/04/14/can-ria-technologies-help-us-to-build-better-enterprise-plm/#comment-710 Thu, 16 Apr 2009 07:14:53 +0000 http://olegshilo.wordpress.com/?p=1190#comment-710 Hi, BPEL brings no benefits. The functionality is limited, the processes do not become portable and it should not be manually edited anyhow. I still need to model roles, organization, data, interfaces, GUI and rules someplace else. BPEL is not built for processes but for orchestration. If at all one should be using BPMN. I do however not believe in analyzed, rigid processes whose necessary bureaucracy make a business less agile, but in a social, collaborative approach that empowers the user.

]]> By: olegshilovitsky http://plmtwine.com/2009/04/14/can-ria-technologies-help-us-to-build-better-enterprise-plm/#comment-704 Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:17:16 +0000 http://olegshilo.wordpress.com/?p=1190#comment-704 Hello Max,
Thanks for commenting. I will take a look on papyrus materials more in deep. It’s interesting you decided not to use BPEL…. can you explain why? Thanks. Oleg.

]]> By: Max J. Pucher http://plmtwine.com/2009/04/14/can-ria-technologies-help-us-to-build-better-enterprise-plm/#comment-688 Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:57:38 +0000 http://olegshilo.wordpress.com/?p=1190#comment-688 Thanks for quoting my blog. Don’t forget Adobe AIR is hardcoded by programmers. What RIA should be about is to make the GUI more adaptable by the business user. The GUI must finally enable the user to do what he considers as practical and not some programmer. This is why we have developed Papyrus EYE based on QT and Flash and stayed away from hardcoding. We do not use FLEX or AIR and can implement also AJAX or Silverlight versions.

The direction is a ROLE-BASED GUI so that each user can shape his own views freely and be only restricted by role/policy authorization and business boundary rules. That is true for PLM as for any other business application.

More on http://www.isis-papyrus.com and http://isispapyrus.wordpress.com/2008/03/24/what-is-papyrus-eye-and-how-did-we-get-there/

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