Comments on: PLM beyond Twitter

By: olegshilovitsky

olegshilovitsky — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:15:55 +0000

Tom,

I’m monitoring Twitter with RSS. Back to my post about RSS – http://plmtwine.com/2009/01/23/how-to-improve-plm-collaboration-and-information-delivery-with-rss/
You can use http://www.tweetfeed.com/ or http://www.tweetfeed.com/.
In addition, I’m using http://search.twitter.com which also have RSS support.

Best -Oleg.

By: Tom Gill

Tom Gill — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:04:16 +0000

Oleg, How are you following Twitter posts? So far, I’ve just been going to the web site. If twitter messages can be sent to an existing “message monitoring” tool, already being used it may have a better chance of adoption.

Tom

By: olegshilovitsky

olegshilovitsky — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:51:23 +0000

Tom,

For me twitter is social net. From technological standpoint this is global IM with persistent storage for all messages (actually this is what twitter is doing). So, if you wanted to leverage this net as protocol, I’m almost with you. Why almost? Because ability of Twitter to create content and distribute it via social end-points is the most strong characteristic in my view. Therefore my proposal was to connect PLM content to Twitter.

But, yes Josh is right. If it will be another system user have to learn in addition to mail, it will not be good and users will not be happy.

-Oleg

By: Tom Gill

Tom Gill — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:42:38 +0000

My thought was to use twitter as a protocol to notify someone about a PLM event. The event may or may not have human entered text. This is redundant, as most systems already do this with email, but having the capability may enable other opportunities. Or, it’s a solution looking for a problem .

Josh, is right, any additional effort requirements will be resisted.

Tom

By: olegshilovitsky

olegshilovitsky — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 03:36:28 +0000

Brad, sounds like you are trying to structure messages in Twitter… right? Actually, I’ve see that Twitter allow you to get to right content without “placement” – structure of messages. You can subscribe and search… is it good enough?
Regards, Oleg

By: olegshilovitsky

olegshilovitsky — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 03:34:47 +0000

Josh, Thanks! I see you comment is very important and interesting. I understood you piloted Vuuch and you liked it, right? But you got trouble to ask people to learn one more system in addition to all office tools… is it correct?
-Oleg

By: olegshilovitsky

olegshilovitsky — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 03:32:55 +0000

Tom, I don’t think about PLM as tool with specific boundary. I see it belongs to space that fuzzy defined today as Product Development and Manufacturing. I cannot talk about similarity with Vuuch, since I’m not developing product… . From my standpoint, when I thought about micro-blogging, I interested how people can produce content that can be consumed by other people. For me, main difference between Twitter and other collaboration tools is that is considered as in the same way as other information in the system.
Regards, Oleg

By: Brad Holtz

Brad Holtz — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:53:38 +0000

Oleg,

The one thing missing from Twitter that needs to be addressed before this can work is some sort of message identification that would permit threading. Without it, there is too much confusion.

Brad

By: Josh

Josh — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:11:44 +0000

We’ve been trying to get something like this going with Yammer, but the toughest thing is getting everyone to use it.

Like Tom says it would be better through a system like Vuuch. In fact probably exactly like it.

But it seems, for some reason, that the hardest part is to get people to use it. We’re complacent in our outlook/word/excel world. so hoping that changes.

By: Tom Gill

Tom Gill — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:49:05 +0000

Hi Oleg,

How do you see this functioning inside the PLM tools? Would it be similar to what Chris is doing at Vuuch? I can also see automating it by having a url to the plm object converted to a tinyurl, then posted to twitter.

Are there alternative twitter servers available? My understanding is it all must go through twitter.com.

Best Regards

Tom